Getting Lean, Strong & Healthy

An evolution in body, mind and spirit.

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  • Name: Anna down under
  • City: Wollongong
  • Region: New South Wales
  • Country: Australia

My Weight Loss

Height: 162.6cm
Start weight: 271.00lb
Current weight: 263.98lb
Goal weight: 130.00lb
Lost to date: 7.02lb
Remaining: 133.98lb

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Saturday stats -- vegan athletes and protein needs

Alright, lets get the bad news out of the way right away.  That TOM will soon be upon me, so I'm up in weight this week.  Some months, like the last one, I just didn't lose anything, and other months, like this one, I gain a bit.  I wish I didn't have to deal with that every month, because it is really discouraging, but there's no point wishing on things you can't change, so it's better to just accept it and move on.  I'm 113.4 kg (250 lb) this week, which is up 0.6 kg (1.32 lb) from last week.  I know it will pass in a week or so, but it still sucks big time.

As I said in my previous post, though I did well at the first official weigh and measure since I started training a month ago -- other than that pesky body fat percentage going up slightly, and dropping in muscle mass.  The head trainer sent me a text message during the week to come in and talk to him about it.  So I did -- he is concerned about my vegan diet.  He says I need to reduce my carbs and eat more protein, preferably animal protein.  Of course I told him that's just not going to happen.  So then he said to use a protein powder, but I'm not sure how that will fit into my daily calories as he doesn't want me to use it as a meal replacement.  I work hard to keep my carbs at or below 60% of my calories, but it's hard to do that without taking in too much fat.  He's not concerned about fat, just getting those carbs way down.  You can't convince him the body needs healthy (not processed) carbs -- in fact I know he's got some of the other girls basically eating a modified Atkins diet -- modified only in that it's probably lower in fat.  He's really not supportive of the vegan diet, but of course ultimately it's up to me what I put in my mouth.  Still I'd like to ensure I'm eating the right balance for optimal health, so I've been doing some online research.

Of course there are vegan bodybuilders and athletes out there -- and I did find a site with suggested calorie / carb / protein / fat levels for women, but it assumes you're a bodybuilder, and the recommended calorie intake was WAY above where I should be.  And it didn't really suggest WHAT to eat.  Then I came upon Thrive: The Vegan Nutrition Guide to Optimal Performance in Sports and Life.  This looked interesting, and more along the lines of what I was looking for, so I've ordered a copy.  I'm anxious to get that (though I'm already in the middle of two books, so I'd better get reading! LOL).

It shouldn't be this hard.  We shouldn't have to count calories and obsess about food choices!  Other than domesticated animals that live with humans, animals don't get overweight!  They just eat what nature intended and stay a normal body weight.  Maybe that's it -- eat what nature intended.  I'm eating almost totally vegan and low-fat as well, but not always whole foods.  I rarely eat bread, but I do have wholegrain cereal and tortillas.  And at this time of the month, I also tend to give in to other binge-worthy treats that I know I shouldn't have (like last night) but I'm working on that.  I don't know about you guys, but evenings are really the biggest challenge for me.  That's when I tend to crave things I know I shouldn't have, and though I usually don't give in, some days I do.  It's an ongoing struggle.  I'm not perfect, but I'm doing the best I can most of the time.

I'm also finding more time to meditate and focus on positive affirmations.  I know from experience that they work -- just change any negative thoughts that creep in from time to time to positive affirmations instead, and repeat them often.  It really does need to be about improving in body, mind AND spirit.  Hope you've all had a great week!

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meditation is great, keep thinking positive and healthy.  happy sunday

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It sounds like if you are going to eat a vegan diet, it might be a good idea to consult with a dietitian or a nutritionist.


With the things your trainer is telling you, it is obvious he doesn't know diddly squat about nutrition. Atkins (or any low carb diet) should never, ever be used by people who are active. Your nutrition should be about 60% carbs, 20% fat, and 20% protein. At your current weight, and considering you are working out, you should probably be at about 1500 calories per day.

Animal protein isn't absolutely necessary, but if you don't know how to get adequate protein from plant sources, you might want to consider being ovo-lacto vegetarian instead of vegan. It's so much easier to get your protein when you eat eggs and dairy.

Thanks Helen

Actually I did see one about a year and a half ago -- I had several sessions with her. She was quite happy with my diet, but at the time I wasn't doing group training. I definitely won't be going lacto-ovo but there are plenty of vegan athletes and even bodybuilders, so that's not necessary.  I'm just looking for further information at this point -- find out what's worked for others.




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